MEATBALLS AND DREAMBALLS SirLagsAlot wrote: >you are a shining example at just how effective hubbards brainwashing >techniques can be... >you are indoctrinated so much so that even when faced overwhelming evidence >of the fraudulent nature of dianetics/scientology you still cling to the >fantasy of being a super being... I get tired of saying this, but I will say it again, and probably keep saying it until the end of time, which hopefully will happen shortly. There are two opposing theories of existence, in the first Scn/Dianetics is probably impossible at least at the OT level. You can always audit dianetics on anyone regardless of which theory is true, but no one will ever get out of their body if the first theory is true. In the second theory, Scn and OTdom are obvious and self evidently possible and even probable. The real issue then is how we decayed from being aware of theory 2, into the present state of having faith in theory 1 which says we all die forever. Theory one says that what exists is matter, energy, space and time, and from this preexisting space and time consciousness was born as a process in the brain. Since consciousness IS a process in the brain, it can not possibly exteriorize itself from the brain. This does not preclude the possibility of remote viewing or telekinesis, but it does completely preclude the possibility that the conscious unit can leave the body, or that it will survive body death. Theory two, says that matter, energy, space and time do not exist at all except as a co shared dream or hallucination if you will amongst many dreamers. In theory two, what exists is consciousness which then chooses to engage in dreams of matter, energy space and time. Worse consciousness CHOOSES to BECOME dream objects in space and time, so that it begins to believe in theory one! In theory two, since consciousness created dreams of matter, energy space and time in the first place, clearly it existed prior to these things, and since it CHOSE to enter a dream object for a while, it can replicate this choice and motivation and thus remove itself from such entanglement even while the body is still alive, at least in theory. OTdom is complete fiction in theory one. OTdom is obvious in theory two by definition. Those who would ask me for evidence that the world in a dream will be met by my asking them for evidence it is not. Or they can read the Arthur C Clarke series in their entirety at the archives. ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke1.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke2.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke3.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke4.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke5.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke6.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke7.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke8.memo ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/clarke/clarke9.memo I personally have enough evidence that theory 2 is correct, across thousands of dreams, rememberances, ascension experiences and micro and macro exteriorizations, both on and off drugs, and just plain theoretical understanding of theory 2, that I do not have a problem with the wild possibilities of OTdom. Specific historical events however such as OT III, I have no clue about. Homer -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com Sat Aug 2 22:55:04 EDT 2008