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Date:         Sat, 24 Jun 89 20:45:48 EDT
From:         Homer 
To:           Adore-l list 
In-Reply-To:  Message of Wed, 19 Apr 89 09:38:09 CDT from 

>   From the introduction to a recent translation of the Bhagavad-Gita:
>
>      "We are unable to experience a true external reality, and can only
>       truly experience our own nervous system."

     This is wrong.  The nervous system is just another part
of the supposed 'external reality' which is all a virtual machine
hallucination anyway.  The brain and the nerves and the body and
the external world do not exist.

     Conscious arcade picture images of them exist, that is all.

>may be germane to my recent note on my "spiritual" experiences. Note
>that this statement does not rule-out an external reality, it merely
>postulates limits to our grasp of it.
>                        NickGeovanis-UWC6NTG@UICVMC

     Probably the reason that Nick and I did not get along was not
because of a lack of special experiences on his part as he seems to
have had a whole boat load of things happen to him that others might
rightly be jealous of.

     It is his persistance in putting them down, insisting that the
external world is real, denying total responsibility for his
existance, chickening out about further experimentation, and
not carrying to completion the opportunities afforded to him
on his road to truth.

     This includes putting limits on what he can know.

     After having gotten out of his body, he is still willing to
claim that the external world is real and that the brain and all
are actual.

    So I ask you, WHAT IS IT that gets out of the body?

     Is it real, or just a hallucination?

    How real is your consciousness and self and will?  Are they
just functions of meat in motion or are they their own thing
capable at worst of interacting with meat in motion, and
capable at best of dreaming entire virtual universes of this stuff.

 Homer               Adore-l list         6/24/89 No subject