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Date:         Sun, 12 Mar 89 23:26:16 EST
From:         "Homer W. Smith" 
Subject:      Re: Violence and it's children
To:           Adore-l list 
In-Reply-To:  Message of Sun, 12 Mar 89 13:39:00 CST from 

>Does anyone follow what I'm saying?

     I would agree that once one has descended down below physical pain
into anger, fear, sorrow and apathy that consciousness gets less and less.

     In fact some say that when we are angry, we are doing to others
what was done to us in a long ago time either this life or before.
We may have been killed by the other person or just hurt severely while
they were angry at as.  Now that we are angry at something else we are
trying to survive by becoming what beat us.

     They say our memory is that the other guy WON by being angry at
us, and so we try to win by being angry at what ever is bugging us now.

     Just a theory mind you.  But it implies there is a certain
amount of unconsciousness involved in getting mad.

     On the other hand, if you poke someone hard enough, he or his
body will get mad regardless of our philosophizing.

>Does anyone care?

     Yes this is terribly important.  Most parents for example wont
let their kids get mad.  So where the hell does it go?

>Is the subject matter non-essential?
     It is essential as it comes.  Anger is what drives the war problems
in the Middle East.

>What are your goals?

    I am no longer sure.  I suppressed the hell out of them when
I was a kid for reasons that are unclear.

>Why are they your goals?

    Probably because they allowed maximum expression of my spiritual,
mental, emotional and physical capabilities.  They put an optimum
load on my system.

>[How] Do you know they can they be achieved?
    Faith in existance as something other than a losers arena.

    Of course if we are all meatballs, then who knows...

    But from the Adorian point of view, we can do anything we
want (thats logical) so easily that we had to set up barriers for ourselves
so that we could have some challenge to it.  Later the barriers
became too much and we tried to remove them, but because we had
lost our sense of responsibility for having put them there, we
could not get rid of them and went into apathy and substitution of
other lesser goals.

>Regards, Ken.

 Homer W. Smith      Adore-l list         3/12/89*Violence and it's children