Mach777 ( wrote:
>> I cannot prove the non existence of something. It is possible that
>> these things exist, and that either I did not have the appropriate
>> experiences, or that I don't have the appropriate abilities.
>> But is it not crazy to believe in things we cannot experience or
>> perceive?

      Adore would say that depends on how you define belief.

      If something can not affect you in any way, then you can not learn
anything about it AT ALL, let alone with certainty.

      Certainty comes from experience, because the only certainty there
is, IS experience.

      Consciousness-of, experience-of, perception-of IS certainty-of.

      From our experiences ('of the world') we then interpret what the
world must be like.  We see space, so we think there is space.  We
experience out-there-ness, so we assume there is out-there-ness.  We see
other beings, so we assume there are other beings.

      What is certain is the experience, but in the end experience is
only a symbol for an alleged referent in the external world.  The
experience might be considered to be 'evidence' for the external
referent, but there are other models.

      It's like looking at a TV set and concluding that because you see a
car on the screen there must be a car somewhere out there.

      Adore says that ALL 'belief' is a sin against certainty.

      Beings don't need to believe things, they need to confront the
unknown.  The effort to escape the 50/50 mark on many subjects leads
them to premature conclusions and convictions just to cover their fear
of not knowing.

      Adore says that each being needs to find the perfect certainties of
his life, ones that can not be wrong, for example, I AM and I CARE, and
use them as a standard against which to compare all his other beliefs.

Everything that is not certain then becomes unknown.

      It is ok to assign a probability to an unknown, a 'bet' in Adore's
terminology, especially if one has to make a decision or act upon them,
but to then upgrade them to 'beliefs' becomes an error, unless the word
belief is defined to mean merely something that one considers more than
50/50 likely.

      Your average meatball is inverted.

      He is certain he can't be certain of anything, he doubts that he
doubts, and yet he strongly 'believes' in all kinds of things that one
can easily prove one CAN'T be certain of, like the existence of the
alleged physical universe beyond our virtual experience of it in our
consciousness, or that he is mortal etc.

      Out integrity means believing you know more than you do,
or believing you don't know more than you do.

      The process of clearing this out integrity then is to bring the pc
back into recognition of actual perfect certainties, then the
reevaluation of all beliefs against the standards of perfect certainty
until they fall into their probabilistic bucket or 'bet' as it were.

      The more false certainties are cleared out of the way, (i.e those
things the pc *SAYS* he is certain of but which are either mere theories
or just simply wrong, and which in fact he therefore CAN'T be certain of
them if he would just look), the more the mind is still and free from
these false ideas and can once again be open to what knowable
actualities might remain.

      After the false certainties are cleared out, the being usually
finds himself sitting on the 50/50 fence on most of the major questions
of his life, feeling the wind of living fear blowing through him for the
first time on a continuous basis.  Then with a mind that is no longer
asserting inanities into the wind to turn it off, it is free again to
see what might appear.


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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.

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