PERSISTENCE AND VANISHMENT AGAIN CB Willis (cbwillis@adore.lightlink.com) wrote: >This assumes that truth causes vanishment, and so far that hasn't been >shown to most people's satisfaction - perhaps I should just speak for >myself on that one. We could say that truth causes vanishment of >ignorance. Or truth causes vanishment of falsehood. But your claim is far >wider than that. Yes, it is tempting to water down Scientology to fit one's own needs for persistence. Thus people just don't 'get it', Scn that is. They want a way to persist better, Scientology is not it. The only real way to 'persist better' is to be more facile at unpersisting things, both good and bad. Trying to get good to persist and bad to vanish is a major expanding trap. Mainly because all persisting good falls short of the glory of vanishing truth. The greatest beauty is just before you go out. You just can't get there by staying in. All manifestation, all conscious-of, is dream time, holographic projections of MEST on the physical plane, and emotions, ideas and higher stuff on higher planes. Each manifestation in turn can be fully as-ised to complete vanishment through the process of perfect duplication as Hubbard calls it, or perfect replication or reoperation as Adore calls it. The slightest alter-is of one's perception of the item will cause it to continue to persist. Since ANY significance at all is alter-is, one can see how things might hang around with people looking at them and using them, desiring them, hating them, blaming them, wondering who caused what, rather than getting the as-isness of them. As-isness first vanishes one's own perception of the thing, one's compulsive tuned-in-ness to the universe, but at a higher state it can vanish anything, including force, matter, energy space and time, as they are all dreams in this theory. This would be a full OT VIII as originally envisioned. There is only one mechanism of creation and that is as-isness, and only one mechanism of destruction and that is as-isness, and only one one mechanism of persistence and that is alter-is and not-is. Not-is is a subset of alter-isness. The true truth is nothing created. This is because creation came second to eternal but unmanifesting being. But eternal beingness is not eternal consciousness-of the way most people think, llike God is hanging out in space listening to his angels singing forever and ever. No, that's hell. If you can imagine an unenforced sleep on the part of an infinite being with all abilities intact but quiescing, in an undisturbable unimpingable peace forever for free, you will have some idea of what the static native state is. WHY it moves into manifesting is not understandable, it is only operable. It is however agreeable :) The total knowingness is the quiescing sleeping God, it has perfect innate competency, it 'knows' how to operate, how to move in and out of manifestation. It has no ideas about this, no knowledge or know about, it is conscious-of nothing in the unmanifested state. The first consciousness-of, the first waking thought, the first dreamtime colorform are the first creations. These do not hang around unless the being engages in adding significance. They come and go like fleeting images on the face of eternal peace, but once one is grabbed onto and altered with significance, then they start to hang around and coalesce into dreamtime for the being. The being is Master and Apprehentice all wrapped into one, without knowing anything about being either. It can just do it. It didn't have to learn it, it can't teach it, it just knows how, the ability to operate is built into the fundamental structure of its ground. >> It is in part why true enlightenment is so scarce, people are >>seeking a persisting truth rather than a vanishing truth. >It would never occur to me to seek a vanishing truth. I would have never >come up with that one in a million years. Neither would I, which is why I owe Hubbard one. Homer >- CBW - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth and Peace. 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