> On Jun 14, 5:59?am, RolandRB  wrote:
>> I disappear from this newsgroup for a few months and it seems like
>> nobody posts here any more. I WANT OT POWERS !!!!!
     We consider that motivation is prior cause to all we do, this
PRESUMES time, before and after, and therefore the timeless state eludes
     BEFORE        NOW     AFTER
     The primary OT power is the movement from timelessness into
timefullness, from eternality into temporality.
     Temporality comes in two flavors, immortality in time (hell
forever), and mortality in time (death forever.)
     Both are second postulate apparencies based on the primary
postulate of eternality, no time at all.
     The conscious picture we SEE around us is a composite of the past,
every foot something is away from us, is one nanosecond of being in the

     At a billion feet away, the object would be seen as it was 1 second
go.  The moon is seen 8 seconds in the past and the sun is seen 8
minutes in the past.  The sun could go completely kerpluie on us, and
there would be no causal hint, not even a warning, here on earth for 8
     Thus seeking timelessness by looking OUT THERE is folly, as it
seeks timelessness in present time conscious renderings of the PAST.
     Timelessness exists only where we are, but even the motivation to
find timelessness itself creates time.
     The desire for OT powers as Roland expresses it, is a sought after
solution to a problem of long duration, usually defense of the body.
     This enslaves the OT into the service of taking care of the body or
other's bodies or the civilizations that are holding pens for bodies.
     "What motivation do you have?"
     "What OT ability would satisfy that motivation?"
     "What would you do with that ability?"

     (My God, don't run them as questions, run them as Spot or Tell me.)
     E/P: PC is OK with the world, settled comfortably into where he is,
as he is.

     Comfort is desire in (a state of) satisfaction with how things are.
     Expect a long run as mortal and immortal foolishness run out.
     How OT is it to be able to be OK with the world?
     Would you prefer to be able to move marbles on the table?
     Why?  To make the world more OK?
     Do you see the joke?

     The world was MADE OK.

     Then it was considered NOT OK.

     Now we have to move marbles to make it OK again, maybe.

     That is an endless rat race.

     As desired.

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