I agree there is some need to clarify the actual dynamics as laid
out by Ron.

     Part of the problem is that the dynamics tend to confuse spirit and
MEST, the physical universe of matter, energy, space time and force.

     Both can have groups for example, but MEST (6) is below SPIRIT (7)
so, which groups are we speaking of, spirit groups or MEST groups?

     Confusing the two is dangerous.

     Starting at the top we have Source which is 8, that is easy.

     Below that we have spirits which is 7, that too is easy.

     But spirits can act alone, or in groups, so we assume there is a
gradient scale of co operation there in the 7th.

     Then spirits like to create MEST which is 6, and from here it is
MEST all the way on down.

     MEST breaks into Life which is 5, but there is plant life 5a, and
animal life which is 5b.

     Animal life has as a subset of it, human life, and so we have
mankind which is 4.  For a monkey, the group of all monkeys would be 4,
and man would be on the money's 5th.

     Now amongst man, we have groups, starting with planetary man
itself, then ethnic groups, one's country (vaginabush), state, town,
schools, work groups and family.

     The family is special because it is a creative dynamic for making
other man, and thus we can call the special group of people connected by
a blood line the family which then is the 2nd dynamic, which includes
all ancestors, mates, children and future heirs and sex.

     Love and marriage have nothing to do with it, other than love
exists on all dynamics, and marriage is a social pretense.  Sex is
generally restrained to the second dynamic, except when it is used for
pleasure outside of the realm of making children.

     Notice even in a commune, everyone related by blood, and by
agreement everyone related by law (in-laws) are part of family and part
of a person's 2nd dynamic.

     Apparently since we all had the same mother eons ago, everyone
alive today is part of family, but that is a bit extreme.

     Notice that groups are a subset of man, and family is just another
group, special only in its blood line and creative aspect.

     Then on the first dynamic we have the single body.  Many take the
first to mean the spirit plus the body, but spirits on the 7th have
bodies just like cowboys have horses, and people have cats.  A body is
just another pet.

     So the body is a 1st dynamic TO A BODY, but is a 5th dynamic to a

     Looking from the bottom up, the first group that a body belongs to
is family as a child.  It then grows up to belong to family as a parent.

     The next group that people generally belong to is the group of
other families, or one's closest community where raising children is the
primary activity.

     The next group up would be work and career groups, what the being
is careening around life doing to survive.

     Then you get all manner of groups up through country, race,
religion and man himself.  Then you get life, MEST, spirit and Source.


Clearing Archive Roboposter  wrote:
> Now here's a thread dear to my heart!
> "Out 2D" is inevitable, with rare exceptions.
> This is not becaue "the Second Dynamic is too hot", as Ron copped out on the
> subject.
> It's, like every other problem subject, a matter of misunderstanding.  In
> this case, of severe misdefinition.
> When, in my review of Ron's errors, I came to the Dynamics, I found that he
> had followed the insanity of the world.  He left three contextually similar
> but factually distinct activities collapsed together.  To accommodate this
> he had to create the second dynamic.  Do not forget that he was not firm is
> its place, describing it as a sort of sub-group (3rd Dn).  Or that his own
> "2D was a lifelong shambles.
> The 3 elements of "2D" are sex, love/marriage and children.
> Sex is a body thing, plain and simple.  So I placed it accordingly, in the
> 1st D(omain - couldn't have confusion over 'which Dynamics, Ron's or
> Allen's, no could we?)
> Sposes and children really are a sub-group.  But a group nonetheless, and
> one as often abused, sabotaged and sacrificed as any other.  So I put it
> into Groups where it belongs.
> As you can see, this leaves only Love/Marriage, and it begins to appear that
> the 3rd Dynamic is actually the 2nd Domain.  And so it is, because when you
> recognize that Love/Marriage is actually an attempt to meld beingnesses into
> a new consciousness, you have to place Love/Marriage into the Spiritual Domain.
> Once you get it together like this, you see that what a particular
> relationship looks like is a function of the inter-Domainal agreements of
> those involved, and nobody else's business.
> Of course, there are a few other adjustments I found necessary, and I like
> infinity, so I let the number of Domains work out to the same quantity of
> "8" that Ron brought from the Mission.  The major difference is, I wasn't
> left with a need to add further units to include ethics, etc.
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>      Sometimes it is easier to look at complex things one section at a
>      time.  This is particularly true of life.
>      Life is both large and complex.  It encompasses everything you
>      encounter, and its inter-relationships are nearly infinite.  Trying
>      to figure it out is intimidating to say the least.  Even just
>      trying to isolate and analyze your own personal life, actions and
>      relationships can be a dizzying task.
>      The problem of confronting life often seems too vast in scope.  But
>      therein lies a large part of the solution: one of the biggest
>      reasons people have difficulty putting their lives in order is the
>      failure to narrow the scope by cutting the problem down into
>      manageable segments.
>      As you grow to adulthood you reach ever further into life,
>      increasing your spheres of participation and influence.  The extent
>      of the influence you develop is your domain.
>      A domain is a sphere of influence: a territory, realm or zone over
>      which one has taken control or over which one exercises
>      jurisdiction.
>      Domain is the playground; dominion is the power or authority.
>      Influence may be limited or extensive, but it can always be divided
>      into several topical areas, such as self, the environment, etc.
>      Each area can then be examined separately.  Once you have analyzed
>      the various parts of life as it relates to you, you can usually
>      harmonize them fairly easily.
>      We have divided life in general along topical lines.  There are
>      individuals, families, groups, other life forms, and so forth.
>      This means that we can list a set of domains that will work for
>      everyone, whether a particular person is active in all of them or
>      not.
>      The following list, admittedly arbitrary, is a logical division of
>      life into spheres of action --domains.  Action rather than
>      beingness, because when we speak of living we are really talking
>      about doing things.  Spheres rather than circles, because when we
>      think, we don't limit our concepts to two-dimensional flatness.
>      And, domains rather than boundaries, because we should not try to
>      be mechanical or overly structured in describing this concept.
>      The idea here is to go beyond the ideas of "moving in certain
>      circles" and of having clear and defensible boundaries, to
>      envisioning ourselves immersed in and interactive with the self-
>      weaving fabric of life itself.
>                              The Domains
>            1.    PERSONAL                5.     ENVIRONMENT
>            2.    GROUPS                  6.     IDEAS
>            3.    HUMANITY                7.     AESTHETICS
>            4.    LIFE FORMS              8.     AETHEREAL
>      A more detailed listing with subdivisions follows.  It should not
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>      rearranging it a bit.
>      Notice that each domain, as you progress "outward" from the
>      personal, is part of the next, and that the AEthereal folds back
>      into the personal.
>                            The Domains:  A Categorical Listing
>            1. PERSONAL
>                  Self-identity
>                  Persona
>                  Personality
>                  Body
>                  Survival supports
>                     water
>                     food
>                     sex
>                     shelter
>                  Possessions
>                     money
>                  Activities
>            2. GROUPS
>                  Family
>                  Friends
>                  Vocations
>                  Social
>                     sports
>                     religious
>                     political, etc.
>            3. HUMANITY
>                  Gender
>                  Genetic sub-group
>                  Planetary genre
>            4. LIFE FORMS
>                  Animals
>                  Plants
>                  Others
>            5. ENVIRONMENT
>                  (Consensus):
>                     Materials
>                     Structures
>                     Locations
>                     Situations
>                     Energy
>                     Time
>                     Space
>            6. IDEAS
>                  Attitudes
>                  Opinions
>                  Understandings
>                  Beliefs
>                  Realities
>                  Constructs
>            7. AESTHETICS
>                  Art
>                  Emotions
>                  Ethics
>                  Integrity
>                  Principles
>                  Marriage
>            8. AETHEREAL
>                  Entities
>                  Creator
>                  Prime Paradigm
>                  Essence
>                  AEther
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