Gary Battistelli (garybatta@home.com) wrote:
>Is the State of Clear possible?  

     Recently my own understanding of dramatization has become clearer.
I was always stuck by the idea of 'stuck on the time track, out of
present time.' This kind of mocked up an other determinism that was
sticking me there, and if I just exerted enough efforts I could get to
present time.  Now I see this is a big joke.

     Basically the person is clipping along and runs into an event,
overwhelming counterforce, he fights back, makes a ridge of the whole
thing complete with all valences involved, include winning valences etc.

     Later during a win/lose game, he decides to use that winning
valence, so he ADORNS himself with the incident which includes all its
perceptions, goals, world views, efforts and valences, only he puts
himself in the winning valence.  Consequently he also wins.  Thus he
STAYS in the winning valence.

     Now this is funny, he won because he has just parked himself way
out of present time in a facsimile where he lost.  Thus his present time
now consists continuously of perceptions colored by the past, valences,
identities, goals, and EFFORTS that were part of the original event and
things leading up to the event.

     He isn't really stuck in the past, but until he doffs the winning
valence in the incident, the incident is being held in place BY HIM in
present time.
     A valence is an ADORNMENT, an ASSUMPTION as in to ASSUME an
identity, not an idea.
the more he struggles to win, the more the incident becomes more and
more solid and he can never audit it out.

     This is why LRH says that 'self auditing' does not work.  Its not a
matter of the pc being too weak or it takes two to tango etc, or the pc
is smaller than his bank, and the auditor plus pc are bigger than the
bank, this is all suppressive bull, its a simple matter of the fact that
the pc is CHOOSING TO BE 100 percent out of valence, and thus using bank
to solve bank.  He can audit out everything in sight, even audit others,
but he can't audit what's really bugging him, because he is BEING it in
order to survive.
     He doesn't WANT to audit it out, he would LOSE EVERYTHING if he
did.  That first incident was a real whopper.
     Now a being can occupy any valence in an event.  Sometimes he
occupies the winning valence, hitting others over the head to get on in
life.  But sometimes, to get sympathy and help, he will switch to his
original overwhelmed valence, being hit over the head, and then he feels
the pain, and hopelessness and despair of the original incident.

     This is why when you get the exact right efforts of the winning
valence, the pain GOES COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY AWAY!  He feels best
during the day when he is most doing the wrong thing winning.

     Joke is, there is a lot of DETERMINATION in the winning valence, I
mean he originally put up a supreme struggle, but so did the thing that
overwhelmed him.
     IT WAS ITS DETERMINATION that won out in that struggle, so the pc
picks himself up by his boot straps from all the depression and despair,
and gets REAL DETERMINED to win against his bank, life etc, ANYTHING,
and he plops right back into the winning valence, because it is the
determination of the winning valence that he is feeling will win, and
thus he sticks himself even more solidly in the incident.  Thus he flip
flops between 'winning' with determined effort and going into hopeless
solidity and despair.

     Thus running DETERMINATION and 'failure is not an option', can be
fruitful to find the source of his ludicrous demise.

     Now that's if he has ONE incident in his bank that he's BEING
utterly.  Imagine if he has 100 or more that he's flip flopping around

     The point is that SELF was a loser, so his own true valence, what
ever it was before he got his first incident, is the worst possible
valence to be in unless he really is going for the sympathy play, but
then he will be in valence with a broken body, heart, mind and soul at
the deepest part of the incident.

     Can't get girls to consider you twice if you are doing well, even
if you are in valence, eh?

     Women HATE men because they are jealous of men, its a continuous
prsent time overt action by women against men.

     PTSness is the effort to make the SP wrong.

     So take a look at what the woman SP is doing.

     As an auditor you need to get him to run the sympathy play
backwards in time until he is back at his true valence in a higher toned
moment.  That's the earlier part of the incident, then he can begin to
run it out.

     But you find him self auditing, and the efforts that he is exerting
to focus, look at the meter, say the commands to himself, remember
things, go past track, are all originally counter efforts in the various
incidents that overwhelmed him and gave him winning valences to
     "All efforts were once counter efforts." - APA, LRH

     This defines a non clear.
     He is USING efforts that harmed him to help himself.

     Thus the more he self audits, the more he 'wins' and then goes more

     Again this is not a matter of the pc being too stupid, weak or
untrained to do this, nor does it take two to produce case gain, its a
simple matter that the pc is auditing out of valence and thus screwing
himself over by using the very bank he is trying to erase.

     Or more accuately he is using one part ofthe bank which is isn't
confronting at all, to audit another part of his bank which he is trying
to as-is.

     Pretty soon you find him trying to go past track by straining to
LOOK through the sticky darkness.  This is a joke, because his EFFORT to
look of course is the effort of the winning valence in the very engram
he SHOULD be auditing but isn't, and thus his efforts to go past track
result in him being nailed on the track where he is and more and more
unable to reach to see other incidents.
     You can't get 'there' by dramatizing 'here'.
     So a clear then is someone who is no longer doing this nonsense.
He is truely in valence, or can be at least after the short time it
takes to see he is dramatizing and clear it out and do it right.
     Of course the clear now finds himself buried up to his scalp in
other beings compressed in around him and his body for as far as he can
see.  He wakes one of these up, and they can mockup a solid steel truck
with full mass coming at him in the blink of an eye.
     This is in part why drugs are so bad for a being, they wake up
BT's that mockup their own worst nightmare in full mass and effort,
and the pc can't as-is it, so he flinches and carries it around in his
face from there on out as a dull mass he doesn't know what it is.

     The question asking gives it away, "Where did THAT come from!" as
if he ought to know, that indicates the out of valence auditing of the
BT incident.

     I mean the pc KNOWS he can't as-is a Mac Truck and he is not so
sure he wants to tangle with something that can mock one up!

     On the other hand, someone who knows how this works, can spot this
when it happens under drugs and run it out anyhow, but he will get the
idea pretty quick that he doesn't want to do this any more, because his
BT's can out mock him up any day of the week, so why bother?

     Toke up, wake up a BT, get hit by a truck, run it out, take a toke,
wake up a BT, get hit by a truck, run it out.  Better to go off and get
laid, don't you think?
     Better to put them all back to sleep, clean up the masses already
made, then clean up one's own bank and take on the BT's later in good

     Most people do drugs to hurry up case gain, at least the bright
one's do.  They feel their auditing is not going fast enough, this is
usually because they (and their auditor perhaps) are dramatizing too
heavily while they are auditing.  Basically they are too busy LOOKING
for incidents to run, rather than running the incident which contains
the efforts they are using to look for other incidents!
     I just want to point out, that even a non clear can make case gain
with drugs and BT's, so if they are smart they can make a lot of case
gain and come down cleaner than they went up.  But if they ain't so
smart, they are going to come down hurting, and stay that way.  And it
is very hard to go clear with all that BT mass still in your face.
     So the problem is getting clear, so that one CAN start solo
auditing.  It's a major problem, because if you are co auditing, and
both of you are not clear, then both of you are dramatizing fruit
cakes, using your best winning valences to 'help' clear out the best
winning valences of the other.

>So if there are any
>people out there who can multiply three eight-digit numbers in their head,
>in seconds flat, or quote pages of text read years earlier, or any of teh
>other things that I would think a Clear can do....please reply here.  Or if

     A clear can solo through an infinite sea of dead BT's.  That good