Stephen Smith
       Remember the dogs on state street?
       Hi Holmer, I found the following quote: As physiology came to
       be understood more and more in terms of physical mechanisms,
       vitalistic explanations for the functioning of the body were
       refuted one by one. The last holdout for vitalism was the
       kidney, but it fell into total disrepute after the elegant
       experiments of Homer Smith in the 1930s demonstrated clearly
       the filtration and secretory mechanisms of that organ.
       It came from this
       website: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Vitalism
       But I am thinking that these attacks on vitalism are
       misplaced, and brought to us by "meat heads." Did your father
       (quoted above) understand this conflict as well as yourself?
       The fallacy of excluded middle must be in place here, is my
       quess. My view is that the vital is supported by the physical,
       rather than being defined by the physical. The vital gave
       birth the volition, emotion, and spirit, all of which are
       self-evident and all have transcended the kidney function that
       they depend on. A trinitarian logic gets beyond the fallacy of
       excluded middle, where vitalism is discovered again.

       Vitalism: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article

       Homer Wilson Smith
       Read the very last chapter of "Man and His Gods", it may be on
       My father's idea of God had been poisoned by Christianity and
       the other inanities of Earth to a point where he had little
       patience for it rightly so. God is not a God of BEHAVIOR, God
       is a God of CREATION.
       Occam's Razor says take the simplest theory to your bean
       counters, as the simplest theory that explains all the facts
       is the one you should spend money on. But who has all the
       facts? That vitalism, or God or Spirit, or consciousness is
       not necessary to explain the extant observable facts of the
       time, hardly proves they do not exist, and my father knew it,
       he merely found little reason to complicate things by bringing
       God or Spirit into it. Does a watch need a spirit to run it?
       Does a brain? To him they were both machines, and machines are
       mathematical mass and force in motion contraptions that have
       no need for PAIN SHAME PLEASURE LOVE etc. Notice that a car is
       a mechanical contraption also, but its DRIVER is a spirit. Now
       we know that love and pain can not of force and mass be made.
       So they missed that one. Recent results about the nature of
       consciousness rather conclusively puts to rest the idea that
       consciousness is a process in machinery, space time gizmos, of
       any complexity. This is athttp://www.lightlink.com/theproof. A
       machine can not be certain of itself, space or time because a
       machine learns by being an effect of distant causes, no matter
       how close, and the relationship between effect and cause is
       one of THEORY, not PERFECT CERTAINTY. No part of any machine
       can be perfectly certain of any other part! But consciousness
       is self aware, worse it is self aware of how it is NOW, not
       how it WAS a nano second ago, which is the best a machine can
       do about learning about its own self. And its still a theory
       about a nano ago! This is easy to prove, if there is time
       between the cause and the effect, then the cause is GONE by
       the time the effect is created, and thus the effect can never
       bea direct perception of the cause as it IS NOW, but only a
       symbolic messenger of how the cause might have been when the
       effect was generated. Thus the effect can never see the cause
       period. Time between causes blindness and only conjecture to
       remain. Consciousness however can SEE itself SEEING, and thus
       this must be an instantaneous process in the now, where the
       being is not learning about itself by looking at a later
       effect but by looking directly at the cause itself in the NOW.
       Space time gizmo physics can not wrap its wits around that one
       at all, as all physics understands is space time processes,
       but consciousness is a spaceless timeless 'process' where
       learning about cause is gleaned by directly looking at cause
       and not at some alleged effect a while in time later. The time
       between cause and effect in the PU demands that the learning
       about the cause via the effect is dated learning out of the
       gate. Anyhow one out of the body experience that is verifiable
       and all of physics gets thrown out. THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL
       OF NATURE, no matter how unified they get it. That's because
       perfect certainy and love and shame can not of force and mass
       be made. They may explain the physical projection and thus
       reduce everyone to a space time gizmo, but never the
       consciousness experiencing itself with perfect certainty. The
       unified science of the all that is then is saved in this way:
       The physical universe does not exist at all, its a rendition
       in the dreaming mind of consciousness. Consciousness is co
       eternal with all other consciousness units and lives above
       space and time as the static co-dreaming the kinetic. The
       static is a MULTI BEING, and each being incarnates as it
       wishes in a dreamtime body called an avatar. It can be a quark
       or a star or a molecule or a human body. Thus the PU is a
       hallucination pure and simple, correct down to the last quark,
       but none the less a co shared virtual reality. Consciousness
       is not virtual, it is actual, as is the I-AM being that has
       that consciousness, and consciousness is not a process in a
       virtual reality! So no, my father did not have that
       understanding, that would have been like expecting a dreamer
       to know he was dreaming. He like Newton and the rest of the
       meatballs thought that space and time are actual, just as most
       dreamers don't know they are dreaming, but he mentions 'what
       is this thing we call consciousness?' in that last chapter of
       Man and His Gods, leaving it I suppose to another life which
       he didn't know for sure he would have, and frankly probably
       thought he didn't have and after 10 years with my mother,
       probably didn't want. Most meatballs have a sense that
       conscioussness is 'different' or special, but as far as I know
       they have NEVER put their finger on just what it is that makes
       consciousness special. What can consciousness do that a
       IN THE NOW. Since I am the only one saying that in present
       time and have no footnotes or references to support it, I
       shall be considered a crack pot until such time a that
       changes. :)

       The Proof
       Learning Certainty and Causality in Consciousness

       Homer Wilson Smith
       And with all that said, the angels and the aliens have been
       tinkering with the genetic strains and the kidney for a long
       time to make it evolve properly

Mon Jul  8 13:06:46 EDT 2013